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Goth is fail.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/02(Wed)18:47:51
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Goths are at their hottest when their skin is pale and clear, and they keep things nice and simple.
I'm not talking about a morality thing, I'm thinking about the purity of an aesthetic. What I mean is that the whole goth look was originally an updated take on a sort of ethereal beauty and menace seen in old movies, particularly horror, and how they did their makeup in order to come out better on camera. A big inspiration being the sharp contrast of pure black on pure white that is evident in old photos and black and white films, which lent them sometimes unintended gravitas.
I mean, some early icons are people like Bela Lugosi or Morticia Adams; very sleek and sophisticated. If you look you notice most early goths had no visible tattoos, and no more piercings than earrings.
But unfortunately it got really vulgar and commercialized and made into an edgy caricature of itself (think Marilyn Manson), and thus way too many these days seem to think it's a requirement to get piercings, or tattoos, or those cheesy coloured contacts that are supposed to make you look like a DEMON from HELL--which I think ruins it. If you want piercings and tattoos just go punk...
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/02(Wed)19:04:09
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true. It's sort of like how the punk look is globally understood as having your face cluttered with piercings and weird hair and tattoos and such, but then you look at group photos of classic punk bands and none of the members looked like that.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/02(Wed)19:08:42
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the goth, punk, hardcore and emo scenes kind of overlap a lot
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/02(Wed)19:09:51
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Kind of like emo I guess. When it first started out in the 90s the typical 'emo' kid was literally just a normal, kind of nerdy-looking person. 'young men wearing thick glasses and carrying shoulderslung messenger bags"
https://up.heyuri.net/src/3894.jpg
The band Weezer used to be considered emo-- they even toured with bands like Dashboard Confessional--but now they get lumped in with grunge, because no one can imagine them fitting the aesthetic of the goth-lite cartoon sketch that emo eventually became as the 2000s wore on.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/02(Wed)19:14:40
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but then again, this is the fate of all forms of artistic expression; pasteurization
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/04(Fri)04:26:24
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The next subculture should start out already weird and crazy so that over time it gets bastardised into just normal people.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/04(Fri)18:49:00
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>>12808
That's what happens most of the time. In the beginning the weirdness is subtle, but effective; it's not in your face; then later adherents of the subculture are just mediocre ordinary people who can only be superficially subversive.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/04(Fri)20:10:21
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I think counterculture/ subculture is a myth. It's basically just market segmentation at work; create a new niche so you can sell more stuff and market the hitherto unmarketable. Some of these guys were literally concocted by salesmen, like Malcolm McLaren with The Sex Pistols.
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/04(Fri)21:09:17
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>I think counterculture/ subculture is a myth
now you're just being a contrarian
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/04(Fri)22:31:47
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the original goths are pure win. I mean, they conquered rome!
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へゆりの住人(´・ω・`)
2024/10/05(Sat)04:40:33
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>>12813
Can you prove me wrong though?
I think it's perfectly logical. Despite any anti-capitalist claims, and sentimentality about creating 'real' art, these guys were basically just entrepreneurs carving a new niche in the market for themselves, and obviously that market would evolve over time, in ways that perhaps the originators hadn't intended. 'Selling out' was a feature, not a bug.
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